Brother Tariq Chaudhry sent this rather disturbing peice of news found on Atlas Shrugs:
Christian hotel owners Arrested for defending their beliefs in discussion with Muslim guest:
Christian hotel owners Arrested for defending their beliefs in discussion with Muslim guest
In a word, dumbfounded. There is no logic to this. No one has the right to throw away centuries of blood, toil, advancement, sweat, tears to the dustbin of history. No one.
Two Christians Arrested for "Offending" a Muslim Islam in Action
Once again we see just how backwards things in the UK are. Last week the Manchester Council was calling for an upcoming anti-Islam protest to be canceled. Now two Christians have been arrested for discussing Islam with a Muslim.
Apparently non-Muslims there now have restrictions on their free speech, while Muslims can openly call for holy war. Christian hotel owners hauled before court after defending their beliefs in discussion with Muslim guest By JONATHAN PETRE 20th September 2009
A Christian couple have been charged with a criminal offence after taking part in what they regarded as a reasonable discussion about religion with guests at their hotel. Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang were arrested after a Muslim woman complained to police that she had been offended by their comments.
They have been charged under public order laws with using ‘threatening, abusive or insulting words’ that were ‘religiously aggravated’.
The couple, whose trial has been set for December, face a fine of up to £5,000 and a criminal record if they are convicted.
Although the facts are disputed, it is thought that during the conversation the couple were challenged over their Christian beliefs.It is understood that they suggested that Mohammed, the founder of Islam, was a warlord and that traditional Muslim dress for women was a form of bondage. They deny, however, that their comments were threatening and argue that they had every right to defend and explain their beliefs.
Mrs Vogelenzang, 54, who has run the Bounty House Hotel near Aintree racecourse in Liverpool with her husband Ben, 53, for six years, said: ‘Nothing like this has happened to us before. We are completely shocked.’ She added that the episode had damaged their business and they had been forced to lay off staff and run the nine-bedroom hotel by themselves, leaving them exhausted.
Sources said that a number of guests staying at the hotel, which charges £92 a night for a double room, were having breakfast in its restaurant on March 20 when comments were made about religion.One of those involved was the Muslim woman, who was staying at the hotel while she received treatment at a hospital nearby.
The couple, who are members of the Bootle Christian Fellowship, and their solicitor, David Whiting, said they could not discuss the content of the conversation for legal reasons. But the independent lobby group, the Christian Institute, which has seen both the prosecution and defence legal papers, is supporting their defence.
Mr Whiting, who last year successfully defended street preacher Anthony Rollins in Birmingham, said: ‘There is a dispute as to the facts of the allegations, but Ben and Sharon do not accept they were threatening, abusive or insulting.
‘They are committed Christians and it is the defence’s contention that they have every right to defend their religious beliefs and explain those beliefs to others who do not hold similar views.’
Such news is a a real insult ...here we are trying to introduce freedom to Pakistan whilst here in the UK we persistentky see marginalised Christians and other faith groups, losing their rights to freedom of speech, with potential devastating affect. More's the pity. The worst part of this heinious action is taht it would seem that a trivial debate has resulted in a potential costly lawsuit - hardly the way to promote community cohesion, which is why I would assume the news laws were introduced in the firts place....Please share your views...?
Christian hotel owners Arrested for defending their beliefs in discussion with Muslim guest:
Christian hotel owners Arrested for defending their beliefs in discussion with Muslim guest
In a word, dumbfounded. There is no logic to this. No one has the right to throw away centuries of blood, toil, advancement, sweat, tears to the dustbin of history. No one.
Two Christians Arrested for "Offending" a Muslim Islam in Action
Once again we see just how backwards things in the UK are. Last week the Manchester Council was calling for an upcoming anti-Islam protest to be canceled. Now two Christians have been arrested for discussing Islam with a Muslim.
Apparently non-Muslims there now have restrictions on their free speech, while Muslims can openly call for holy war. Christian hotel owners hauled before court after defending their beliefs in discussion with Muslim guest By JONATHAN PETRE 20th September 2009
A Christian couple have been charged with a criminal offence after taking part in what they regarded as a reasonable discussion about religion with guests at their hotel. Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang were arrested after a Muslim woman complained to police that she had been offended by their comments.
They have been charged under public order laws with using ‘threatening, abusive or insulting words’ that were ‘religiously aggravated’.
The couple, whose trial has been set for December, face a fine of up to £5,000 and a criminal record if they are convicted.
Although the facts are disputed, it is thought that during the conversation the couple were challenged over their Christian beliefs.It is understood that they suggested that Mohammed, the founder of Islam, was a warlord and that traditional Muslim dress for women was a form of bondage. They deny, however, that their comments were threatening and argue that they had every right to defend and explain their beliefs.
Mrs Vogelenzang, 54, who has run the Bounty House Hotel near Aintree racecourse in Liverpool with her husband Ben, 53, for six years, said: ‘Nothing like this has happened to us before. We are completely shocked.’ She added that the episode had damaged their business and they had been forced to lay off staff and run the nine-bedroom hotel by themselves, leaving them exhausted.
Sources said that a number of guests staying at the hotel, which charges £92 a night for a double room, were having breakfast in its restaurant on March 20 when comments were made about religion.One of those involved was the Muslim woman, who was staying at the hotel while she received treatment at a hospital nearby.
The couple, who are members of the Bootle Christian Fellowship, and their solicitor, David Whiting, said they could not discuss the content of the conversation for legal reasons. But the independent lobby group, the Christian Institute, which has seen both the prosecution and defence legal papers, is supporting their defence.
Mr Whiting, who last year successfully defended street preacher Anthony Rollins in Birmingham, said: ‘There is a dispute as to the facts of the allegations, but Ben and Sharon do not accept they were threatening, abusive or insulting.
‘They are committed Christians and it is the defence’s contention that they have every right to defend their religious beliefs and explain those beliefs to others who do not hold similar views.’
Such news is a a real insult ...here we are trying to introduce freedom to Pakistan whilst here in the UK we persistentky see marginalised Christians and other faith groups, losing their rights to freedom of speech, with potential devastating affect. More's the pity. The worst part of this heinious action is taht it would seem that a trivial debate has resulted in a potential costly lawsuit - hardly the way to promote community cohesion, which is why I would assume the news laws were introduced in the firts place....Please share your views...?
Christian hotel owners Arrested for defending their beliefs in discussion with Muslim guests
ReplyDeleteThat is shocking,I can only wonder what will come next.